Preparing for the long war: an interview with President Zelensky
The Economist Podcasts
Mon, September 11, 2023
Podchat Summary

President Volodymyr Zelensky on Ukraine's Long War and the Need for Western Support

In this episode, we have the privilege of interviewing President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, who shares his insights on the challenges his country faces in its ongoing war against Russia and the crucial role of support from the West.

Hope and Realistic Dreams in a Long War

Zelensky acknowledges the difficulty of fighting a long war and the impact it has on the people of Ukraine. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining hope and a realistic dream of victory, despite the challenges they face.

Weakening Russia's Forces

Highlighting the need to push Russia back, Zelensky discusses the use of weapons to weaken their forces. He believes that a strong military response is necessary to protect Ukraine's sovereignty.

The Pitfalls of Diplomatic Negotiations

Zelensky expresses concern that some foreign partners may advocate for diplomatic negotiations with Russia. However, he firmly believes that Putin cannot be trusted and that such negotiations would be a mistake. He emphasizes the importance of standing firm against Russian aggression.

The Importance of Western Support

Zelensky emphasizes the need for continued support from the West. He highlights the significance of convincing the public in partner countries to stay the course and support Ukraine in its fight against Russian occupation.

Economic Challenges and the Risk of Dependency

Discussing the economic challenges Ukraine faces, Zelensky raises concerns about the risk of becoming dependent on financial assistance. He emphasizes the need for sustainable economic growth and reducing reliance on external aid.

The Consequences of Inaction

Zelensky warns that without the support of its partners, Ukraine may be occupied by Russia. He believes that the people of Europe will not forgive their leaders if they allow Ukraine to be lost. The stakes are high, and the consequences of inaction are dire.

A Vision for the Future

Zelensky outlines his plan for the future, which includes seeking support from the United States, opening negotiations with the European Union, and aiming to end the war by 2024. He remains optimistic about Ukraine's prospects and is determined to secure a peaceful resolution.

Tune in to this insightful episode as President Volodymyr Zelensky shares his perspective on Ukraine's long war against Russia and the critical role of Western support in ensuring a brighter future for his country.

Original Show Notes

As the counter-offensive continues, Ukrainian forces are running out of time to make substantial gains. Diplomatic attempts to isolate Russia have failed and progress on the front lines is slowing. From the capital Kyiv, the president tells The Economist’s editor-in-chief how the country is bracing for a long war.


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