Babbage: The debate over deep-sea mining
The Economist Podcasts
Wed, July 12, 2023
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Exploring the Environmental Impact of Deep-Sea Mining

In a recent episode of The Economist's Babbage podcast, the potential impact of deep-sea mining on the environment was thoroughly discussed. With the increasing demand for metals used in batteries, such as nickel, due to the global transition to clean energy and electric vehicles, the focus has turned to the Clarion-Clipperton Zone (CCZ) in the Pacific Ocean. This area contains a significant amount of metals required for battery production.

While companies are considering the possibility of mining these metals from the CCZ, concerns about the environmental consequences have arisen. The episode sheds light on the significant environmental damage caused by land-based mining, particularly in countries like Indonesia, including deforestation and pollution.

The CCZ, on the other hand, is a pristine environment with a rich biodiversity. However, the full extent of the impact of mining on this ecosystem is not yet fully understood. The potential benefits of deep-sea mining, such as lower greenhouse gas emissions compared to land-based mining and the preservation of land-based ecosystems, are also discussed.

Nevertheless, there are calls for more research and data to fully comprehend the consequences of deep-sea mining. Alternatives, such as recycling and reducing the need for these metals, are also explored. The International Seabed Authority is currently working on regulations for deep-sea mining, and commercial mining in the CCZ has not yet commenced.

This episode of The Economist's Babbage podcast highlights the complex trade-offs and uncertainties surrounding deep-sea mining. It emphasizes the need for further research, discussion, and consideration of alternatives to ensure the protection of the environment while meeting the growing demand for metals in a sustainable manner.

Original Show Notes

As the effects of climate change are increasingly being felt around the world, the need to transition away from fossil fuels is becoming more urgent. An electrified world requires more batteries, which in turn means the demand for metals, such as nickel, is rising. Mining those metals can often have devastating consequences for ecosystems, destroying and polluting vast landscapes. But there is another way to get these metals—from the floor of the Pacific Ocean. an area over 4km below the ocean’s surface offers an alternative. The companies proposing to harvest these metals argue that mining the deep sea would be less environmentally damaging than land-based mining. But many ecologists disagree. 


The Economist’s Hal Hodson explores the diversity of deep-sea ecology by visiting Adrain Glover’s lab at the Natural History Museum in London. Gerard Barron, the boss of The Metals Company, outlines the case for mining the ocean floor. Lisa Levin of Scripps Institution of Oceanography and Anna Metaxas, an oceanographer at Dalhousie University, share their concerns over the lack of evidence of the impact of deep-sea mining. Plus, Sue-Lin Wong, The Economist’s South East Asia correspondent, reports on the destruction that traditional land-based mining in Indonesia causes to the country’s rainforests. Alok Jha, The Economist’s science and technology editor, hosts.


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